It’s no secret that Vogue’s Kim Kardashian/ Kanye West cover ruffled a few feathers, but 73-year-old creative director Grace Coddington managed to make it happen despite the inevitable pushback.

In an interview with the Financial Times, Coddington explained she usually prefers to work with professional models rather than big name celebrities.

“The clothes look better, because they are made for them. And you can ask them to do things you might not ask a celebrity to do,” she noted.

However, Grace insists she was the one who made the Kimye cover happen, not colleague Anna Wintour. “There was a wedding story to be done, and Anna probably had them in mind, because she had been seeing a lot of Kanye, so she said, ‘Maybe we should shoot it on lookalikes.’ And I thought, ‘Why not just do it on the real thing? This is Vogue.’ And I do think Kim Kardashian represents this moment in our culture. I’m fascinated by her, in the same way I’m fascinated by the people I see on the street or the subway.”